Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site sdchema.sdchema.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdchema!gino From: gino@sdchema.UUCP (Eugene G. Youngerman) Newsgroups: net.comics Subject: Englehart, Creeper, Superman, The Foozle, etc. --???? Message-ID: <446@sdchema.sdchema.UUCP> Date: Sun, 8-Sep-85 12:51:24 EDT Article-I.D.: sdchema.446 Posted: Sun Sep 8 12:51:24 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Sep-85 11:35:15 EDT Organization: Chemistry, UC San Diego Lines: 49 Keywords: Eclipse and DC same story This is a long and involved story... Bear with me. Steve Englehart was touted as the finest writer in comics, back in the early and middle seventies. He was working for Marvel, writing the Avengers and Captain America, and who knows what all else. He and Marvel had a falling out, and he went to work for DC. He wrote approximately 10 spectacular issues of JLA. He also wrote the Batman series which ran in Detective, and is currently being reprinted by DC as "Shadow of the Batman." He also wrote 3 ro four issues of Mister Miracle, when it was restarted. A fairly large amount of this work was illustrated by Marshall Rogers. Nice story -- what? [Sorry, I watched DangerMouse last night -- what?] Anyway, as things progressed, Steve became disenchanted with the way he was being treated by the people at DC. He had been commissioned to do a 3-issue miniseries of Madame Xanadu as well as an issue of either DC Comics Presents with the Creeper, or Brave and Bold, with the Creeper. (Up until about 2 weeks ago, I couldn't remember which.) Due to some arguments over page rate, Englehart pulled back his scripts. The first issue of the Madame Xanadu mini-series became the Madame Xanadu one-shot. The rest of the mini series became (supposedly) Scorpio Rose. The *blank* and Creeper story became the first Foozle story. It ran in the first two(?) issues of Eclipse Monthly (which was no way, no how monthly). This story is currently being reprinted by the good folks at Eclipse, as the Foozle #3. And.(drum roll, please) The currnt story in DC Comics Presents is an Englehart story (illustrated by Keith Giffen) starring (you guessed it) the Creeper. Are these the same story, redrawn and reworked. Did Steve Englehart get paid twice for writing the same story. On the other hand, does Bill Mantlo get paid at all for that trash he writes. Does Bullwinkle have antlers. What is the capital of Assyria? I'd like to hear what some of you other comic buffs (Moriarty, put your clothes back on, not that kind of buff) have to say about this. Respectfully yours, This is a job for GINO -- gino@CHEM.UCSD.ARPA gino@CHEM.UCSD.UUCP sdcsvax!gino%chem.ucsd Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com