Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!ut-sally!brian From: brian@ut-sally.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: students editing output (more) Message-ID: <2889@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Sep-85 23:54:43 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2889 Posted: Fri Sep 13 23:54:43 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Sep-85 12:27:05 EDT References: <433@uvm-cs.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 28 I thought of a little more to say about this. We also take the time to look at the people's code. We look it over for style and documentation (and collusion.) Everybody should have various subroutines that do the same thing. You can look at those crucial sections to see if they did them right. It's the people who have peculiar (i.e. poor; wrong) solutions to these problem sections AND have correct output that warrant further investigation. (i.e. run the program to grade it.) Perhaps I, and the rest of UT's graders, are just mean. I feel, however, that the student shouldn't be shortchanged. I just can't let a shell script do all my grading. AI hasn't progressed to the point that a program can judge program style as well as I can. To me, that's an important part of teaching CS. You don't just teach them how to program; you teach them how to program well. They can learn the former out of a book. UT is here for the latter. Unfortunately, some weeks I spent more than my 20 hours grading/debugging programs. Oh, well. It's all part of being committed to teaching. Brian H. Powell UUCP: ihnp4!ut-sally!brian ARPA: brian@sally.UTEXAS.EDU U.S. Mail: Southwestern Bell P.O. Box 5899 345-0932 Austin, TX 78763-5899 AT&T (512) 345-0932 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com