Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site celerity.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!celerity!boston From: boston@celerity.UUCP (Boston Office) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: students editing output Message-ID: <350@celerity.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Sep-85 18:52:52 EDT Article-I.D.: celerity.350 Posted: Wed Sep 18 18:52:52 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Sep-85 00:35:26 EDT References: <236@uwai.UUCP> <433@uvm-cs.UUCP> <300@uwvax.UUCP> Reply-To: boston@celerity.UUCP (Boston Office) Organization: Celerity Computing, San Diego, Ca. Lines: 21 In article <300@uwvax.UUCP> david@wisc-rsch.arpa (David Parter) writes: >> Stephen Hartley (hartley%uvm@csnet-relay) worries (and, I believe, not >> without cause): > >> > ... students ... tailor[ing] their output with an editor to be more >> > correct. What do other people do? > >David Luner (luner@wisc-ai) writes: >> I make a point to tell my classes that the faking of results is a serious >> breach of trust and will be dealt with severely. I emphasize that the programs > >the problem is to prevent such cheating. NO, NO, NO! The problem is to create an atmosphere in which students take responsibility for their actions! An honor code IS sufficient... as long as (a) it has some teeth in it, as David pointed out, and (b) the rest of the system makes it clear that fraud is WORSE than momentary failure. -- Roger B.A. Klorese Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com