Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!usenet From: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA (USENET News Administration) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Exams vs. Programming Assignments Message-ID: <10470@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Thu, 26-Sep-85 04:55:49 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10470 Posted: Thu Sep 26 04:55:49 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 07:31:10 EDT References: <433@uvm-cs.UUCP> <236@uwai.UUCP> <1627@ihuxl.UUCP> <7@ubc-cs.UUCP> <659@bu-cs.UUCP> <2818@wateng.UUCP> Reply-To: tedrick@ucbernie.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 29 >[... exams] don't really test whether you can program. >They test how fast you can think [... lots deleted] Basically I think this type of problem occurs with exams of all types, not just computer science. I view this situation as a flaw in our educational system. Ideally I would like to stop giving anything but oral exams, to be given when the student feels he has mastered the material. Then either he would pass the exam if I felt he had mastered the material, or be given another chance to retake the exam in say 6 months or so, until he succeeded. The present system promotes quick thinking and clever people at the expense of more methodical types who work more slowly and carefully. It also gives many students a negative self image that is not reflective of their true ability, hinders the learning process, etc. Some students become cutthroat competitors who care more about grades than knowledge. In practice when teaching large courses (like > 200 students) what I do is give exams with no time limit. This has worked fairly well since I have the patience to wait 4 hours for the one student who takes more than 2 hours, but certainly isn't ideal ... Good luck in solving this problem! -Tom tedrick@berkeley Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com