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From: barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry)
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Subject: Re: Stick it in yer ear.
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Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 23:48:46 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 23 23:48:46 1985
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>     The underlieing reason why Oded et alia want my head is because of my
>religious beliefs.  I happen to believe in Christian Identity.  Pure and 
>simple.  
>
>     Understand that there is no way that Judaism can tolerate Identity.  The
>two cannot coexist, nor can Identity be allowed to exist at all.  Identity 
>says that Christians are God's Chosen People of the Old Testament, the 
>direct descendants of the Old Testament Israelites.  Identity believes that
>the covenants given to the Scriptural Israelites by God are still in full
>force and effect, and that we are bound to obey them.  We also believe that
>the United States and Canada are the Promised Land of prophesy.
>
>     Judaism, on the other hand, believes that the Jews are the descendants
>of the Israelites, the keepers of the Law and covenants, the Chosen People,
>etc., and that the Israeli UN Protectorate is the Promised land.  Now do you 
>see the source of the friction?

	Sure do; pointed it out once before. Your explanation also makes clear
why Identity can't tolerate Judaism - can't have rival claimants around for
the title of God's Chosen People, especially when their claim is stronger than
yours! I think Oded must be right - Identity Christianity is too silly a
notion to be anything but a misbegotten plot of the KGB's to sow dissent in
the West. But they certainly must have a low opinion of our intelligence, to
think we would be beguiled by anything so ludicrous.
 
> Tell me, if Christians claiming to be the Chosen People are 
>racists, then howcome Jews who make the same claim are not?  Howcome
>only one little group of 13.5 million are authorized the claim, and
>groups of a billion Christians and a billion Moslems are not allowed
>to dispute it?

	Mr. Black, if you want to be a Jew that badly, it is possible. You'll
have to study a great deal, and to get over your attitude problem, but
conversions are allowed.

>     Somebody on the net tried to start a discussion recently about "what if
>the US really were a Christian Nation?"  Originally, it was.  Our laws
>were based on the concepts of Mosaic law of the Old Testament. But then our
>government was corrupted by the same Purveyors of Usury that were con-
>demned by Christ as the Sons of Satan.

	Well, I knew Jews had financed a great part of the American
Revolution, but I didn't know they were the primary architects of our system
of government - is that what you're trying to say? Does this have something to
do with your preference for the Articles of Confederation over the
Constitution, or did I get that confused, too? Have you ever considered how
much more effective a spokesman you could be for your beliefs if you acquired
an education?

>     So let Feingold and Rosen and Dimitrovsky and the rest call me all the 
>names they want.  They have no other choice but to do so.  

	Take heart, Don. I doubt most of us think of you as an honest-to-gawd
Nazi; we just suspect your brain has been supersaturated with Vitalis.

-  From the Cr w's Nest (splat!) -              Kenn Barry
              |                                 NASA-Ames Research Center
              |                                 Moffett Field, CA
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