Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site bu-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!bu-cs!root From: root@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: [longish] Re: ATTIS's force reduction: A Modest Proposal Message-ID: <672@bu-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 15:33:00 EDT Article-I.D.: bu-cs.672 Posted: Tue Sep 24 15:33:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Sep-85 05:36:17 EDT References: <802@homxb.UUCP>, <146@mcgill-vision.UUCP> Organization: Boston Univ Comp. Sci. Lines: 40 I know I am opening a can of worms here but... Most of these arguments rely on the assumption that second-hand smoke is a serious health hazard (note, all these notes make a point of that beyond any [certainly justified claim] that it is obnoxious.) As I understand it, this remains pure speculation (not in the sense the tobacco industry claims the link between smoking and disease is unproved, that's probably total self-serving rubbish.) It's just that the massive dilution of second-hand smoke compared to actual smoking and the need to actually smoke over a period of, what? 10-20 years to show the serious health effects leads one to believe that this might be one of those grossly exageratted fears, you probably won't get enough smoke in your lungs. I think an actual review of the studies are short on showing any real relationship as popular rumour would have it, even though people would like to believe it to strengthen their arguments against smokers. The fact that you consider it obnoxious should be sufficient without venturing into the dramatic. If it makes your eyes tear or otherwise annoys/distracts you, all the more reason (who can argue that that is *not* a health effect!) If you find an office-mate obnoxious/distracting (for whatever reason) you have a right to complain also, I don't see what the argument is about. The only thing that does bother me is the desire of people to ask the government to enact laws to enforce simple etiquette, I think that's a dangerous precedent, I assume this is why anti-smokers feel a need to escalate the issue. On the other hand, I believe enacting company rules about etiquette probably is appropriate, so no argument here. Besides, smoker's probably don't deserve to have their 'rights' vigorously protected, they'll live (but precedents that might spill over into other areas should be carefully considered.) -Barry Shein, Boston University A smoker, groan. +----------------+ |This is my space| | please smoke | +----------------+ Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com