Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lanl.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!qantel!dual!lll-crg!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!crs From: crs@lanl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.women,net.motss,net.flame Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography Message-ID: <31098@lanl.ARPA> Date: Thu, 26-Sep-85 12:05:48 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.31098 Posted: Thu Sep 26 12:05:48 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 30-Sep-85 01:59:19 EDT References: <369@scirtp.UUCP> <1625@ihuxl.UUCP> <11317@rochester.UUCP> Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 44 Xref: watmath net.women:7567 net.motss:2114 net.flame:12115 > I agree with your logic, but not your premise. Morality is not > necessarily subjective. For instance, I know perfectly well > that your morality *doesn't* allow mass murder. In fact, I'll > bet you'd have a hard time finding a mass murderer who thought > his acts were moral. Which is not the same as "acceptable", > "defensible", or a host of other excuses. Please don't confuse > immoral with illegal or (mercy!) ill-mannered. I'm not sure that I agree with this premise, even within a restricted "universe." First you assume that you know what a "mass murderer" thinks but I doubt that is true. Second, you seem to be neglecting the fact that morality is cultural rather than hereditary. (It is, isn't it?) And, third, *how* do you "know perfectly well" that another's morals don't allow mass murder? Your appear to be assuming, rather, a lot here. > Morals are universal, and morals are for keeps. Why the hell else > even bother to have ethical principles? Morals, in the abstract, *may* be universal but I would be surprised if any particular set of morals, including yours or mine, were universal. > Now, if our ideas of what is moral > clash, I'm afraid this strikes me as contradictory to what I understood you to say earlier. If these morals are universal, how can two individuals "ideas of what is moral clash"? > and you ask me what I'm going to do about it, that is > another issue altogether. Probably not much, but I certainly won't > call a cop. There are no Morals Police. ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Thank God, Fate or your favorite deity. -- All opinions are mine alone... Charlie Sorsby ...!{cmcl2,ihnp4,...}!lanl!crs crs@lanl.arpa Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com