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Subject: Re: RE: Ban Porn Discussion (re Bill Gates)
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Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 17:22:11 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct  2 17:22:11 1985
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> olivee!gnome writes (concerning the "ban porn" debate going on):
> >tried to invade the USA and rape your dog.  Why?  Because, on a whole
> >they have a more balanced and humanistic view of sexuality than any
> >of the Bible waving extremists that we're forced to hear about in the
> >press. 
> 
> Ah, the "balanced and humanistic view".  That view that says
> 
>     "Everything's ok!  Heck, you're ok, and I'm ok.  If you like
>      it, go for it!  Hey, I'm tolerant of everything, because it's
>      all ok!"
> 
>...  It was ok for the homosexuals to come out of the
> closet, and we've got AIDS to reckon with.  And if mankind is truly the
> captain of this ship we're all on, I want off. 

Gosh!  Those nasty gays are at it again!  Trying to destroy society
by spreading AIDS throughout the innocent "God Fearing" straight population!
AIDS is their punishment for being gay!

Maybe AIDS is a test from God.  Maybe if the straight, right wing, politicians
who control the money for disease research hadn't taken the "let 'em die,
they're just fags" attitude, we could have stopped AIDS before it spread.
In other words, God may have said "Don't help your fellow man (AIDS patients)
and you fail the test --  now you will have a real problem on your hands!"

> Yes, we've got labor-saving devices
> and cures to deseases we never had before, but new deseases pop up each
> year to contend with, many of which can be attributed to the quality of
> this life, provided compliments of man, the ultimate determiner of
> everything.

So, what else is new?  Why don't you check out a book on contagious
diseases someday.  Wow!  Look at what man (and animal) have had to
put up with since history began!  Gee, I wonder what the circulation
of Hustler was in 1300 AD?  I guess the blame has to go to the infidels!

> You've got to ignore a lot to make the doings of mankind
> look good and noble.

All of man isn't noble.  Nor pure evil.  Grow up!

> Finally, I'm not too sympathetic about all the stuff you're "forced to
> hear about" in the press.  You're looking for it, so you see it.

I didn't have to listen too hard to hear about Falwells comments on
South Africa.

>If you'll take the opposite tack, look for humanism in the press.  You'll
> find plenty, and you'll find a lot more of that than you will coverage
> of these extemist positions.  Some of it is subtle, because it's just
> part of life.  But it's there.
 
Yes, like USA for Africa.  I always thought that Rock & Roll was the
work of the Devil!  (Maybe if you play "We are the world" backwards...)

> >The real porn in this country is coming from Rev. Jerry F and his
> >trained monkey Jesse H.  and the various neo-nazi groups like
> >the Christian Defense League.  They teach of domination, hatred,
> >and brainless violence.  And they LOVE reactionary moral majority
> >fools - because they talk the same language.
> 
> Let's take a couple of examples of "Christian" beliefs in action, such
> as those listed above, and then let's say that those beliefs are
> representative of ALL Christians, shall we?  I'm a Christian, and I
> disagree with a lot of this stuff as much as you!

I'm not tearing down the good (humanistic) points of Christianity,
just people who teach hate in the name of God.  Don't sidetrack the issue.

> Go ahead and attack Christianity if you want to, but attack what the Bible
> says - NOT what individuals do!  You'll often find the two are radically
> different.
> 
> Bill Gates
> ihnp4!hpfcla!bill-g

The Bible is not what I am out to attack.  I'm after the sick, power hungry
people that use it (or the Koran, or whatever) to control people.  There
will always be religious extremists because there will always be people
who are nothing more than emotional and spiritual puppets; waiting eagerly
to do some leader's bidding.  That's what the issue is.

It's hard for extremist religions to jerk people when they are well fed,
sexually and emotionally happy, and spiritually mature.  Religion
itself is not the problem.  It's the evil that has been (and will be)
done in it's name (such as the crusades).


Well, enough of this waste of disk space.  The one thing that always
is true about religious discussions is its ability to obfuscate.


"God is coming!
     ...and boy is she pissed!"


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