Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site 3comvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!3comvax!michaelm From: michaelm@3comvax.UUCP (Michael McNeil) Newsgroups: net.kids,net.legal,net.politics Subject: Re: corporal punishment in schools (and ACLU) Message-ID: <225@3comvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 20:49:31 EDT Article-I.D.: 3comvax.225 Posted: Mon Sep 16 20:49:31 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Sep-85 05:39:05 EDT References: <2149T3B@psuvm> 11212@rochester.UUCP <2163T3B@psuvm> <11254@rochester.UUCP> Organization: 3Com Corp; Mountain View, CA Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.kids:2019 net.legal:2350 net.politics:11033 [Help! I'm being gobbled up by a Line Eater Monst...] Ray Frank writes about the ACLU: > Here in Rochester the ACLU prevented the police dept. from issuing good > driving tickets to motorists deserving them. It was only a good will drive > by the police dept., but the ACLU said it was unconstitutional. Maybe some people didn't *want* to be stopped on the road, to have their licenses and the interiors of their cars inspected by police, merely so the department could, as a ``good will drive,'' issue ``good driving tickets to motorists deserving [sic] them.'' It seems to me to be a quite elementary Constitutional protection that persons be stopped and questioned by police only when they are doing something *wrong*, not when they are doing everything *right*! > When that 15 yr. old Russian boy wanted to stay in America and not leave the > country with his parents several years ago, the ACLU said he must go back. I don't agree that the boy should've been forced to go back to Russia. (What's the whole story of the ACLU's involvement in this case, anyway?) *However*, Frank, aren't *you* the person who's always claiming that parents should have *complete control* over the minds and bodies of their children, particularly in cases where (*shudder*) the child might learn to think *differently* from his parents' beliefs? Isn't enforcing their ``parental rights,'' as you describe them, over the will and mind of their child *precisely* what the boy's parents were attempting to do? ________________ Michael McNeil 3Com Corporation ``All disclaimers including this one apply'' (415) 960-9367 ..!ucbvax!hplabs!oliveb!3comvax!michaelm Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com