Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sfmag!rlh From: rlh@sfmag.UUCP (R.Hamilton) Newsgroups: net.music.synth,net.legal Subject: Re: Marble Madness & FM Music Synthesis Message-ID: <710@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Sep-85 18:36:10 EDT Article-I.D.: sfmag.710 Posted: Wed Sep 25 18:36:10 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 04:47:25 EDT References: <2614@ihnss.UUCP> <267@weitek.UUCP> <2882@ut-sally.UUCP> <269@weitek.UUCP> <2953@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Summit, NJ Lines: 54 Xref: watmath net.music.synth:541 net.legal:2386 > In article <269@weitek.UUCP> mahar@weitek.UUCP (mahar) writes: > >In article <2882@ut-sally.UUCP>, crandell@ut-sally.UUCP (Jim Crandell) writes: ... > >Patenting FM synthesis is a lot like patenting the color blue to my mind. > >I'm well aware that others were there first. They didn't get that patent > >however. There exists a feature of patent law which makes an idea unpatentable > >if "it is obvious to anyone skilled in the art." I think FM qualifys here. > >Yamaha's lawyers have big teeth however, and Atari didn't want to mess > >with them. > > This seems to be a good example of a type of incident that one hears > about now and then and which usually leaves me with a profound sinking > feeling. I am assuming, of course, that Yamaha has a US patent, else > much of this will seem rather silly. The operative clause, the one > about denying patent protection to any idea ``obvious to anyone skilled > in the art'', is clearly designed to prevent unscrupulous moguls (or > entrepreneurs, for that matter) from taking unfair advantage of patent > laws, since there are obviously many good, potentially marketable > technical ideas which have been in the public domain for a long time > but have never been explicitly identified as such, despite (or perhaps > because of) their familiarity. ... > > Am I the only person in the world who sees it this way? Am I totally > off the wall? What is happening, anyway? > -- > > Jim Crandell, C. S. Dept., The University of Texas at Austin > {ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!crandell As has already been amply mentioned, the patent was issued to John Chowning and Stanford U. (the latter presumably because of Chowning's affiliation with Stanford). The point I want to make, however, is that it is not at all clear to me that the idea of using FM for music synthesis was not patentable, at least at the time the patent was issued. I am not a patent attorney, so take this with a grain of salt (it is backed up by a perusal of our corporate reference book on patents): there are four requirements for an invention to be patentable. It must be in a class of inventions defined as patentable, it must be useful, it must be novel, and it must be non-obvious. The first two are straightforward in this case. Novelty most likely also passes because it is only concerned with whether others were publicly using the invention or already had a patent on it. The real question is non-obviousness, and I think that if you look at what was going on at the time Chowning "invented" FM synthesis, you will see that no one had done anything like it. We now have the perspective of a lot of development in computer music, but at that time, I don't think that it was at all obvious that FM could be anything more than an oddity at audible levels. Even so, I agree that FM being patented does put a crimp in the plans of those who would like to make their own chip or otherwise capitalize on the technique. Dick Hamilton attunix!rlh Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com