Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/3/85; site ukma.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!wws From: wws@ukma.UUCP (Bill Stoll) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: In Support of Hazards of Amalgams (the question of references) Message-ID: <2209@ukma.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 22:08:41 EDT Article-I.D.: ukma.2209 Posted: Tue Sep 17 22:08:41 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Sep-85 04:42:25 EDT References: <2172@ukma.UUCP> <813@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences, Lexington KY Lines: 67 Summary: Byron's method of getting facts is too much like "Spoon feeding". Anyone out there willing? Sorry, Byron, it just ain't that easy! Hey, Byron, I'm still waiting for the first reference supporting those statements of "fact" you throw around so freely. Ordinarily I would send this kind of response to Byron in his mail. Since he has chosen to put his "stuff" on the net--O.K. by me. I was an AMA type doctor for 10 years. Ihave seen the system from the inside and the outside. I have not said, nor will I say, that any individual physician is out to keep the patient ill. Anyone who gets that message is projecting. The system is set up so that the sicker the patient is the more money the doctor makes. The only part of the system set up the other way is HMOs. I have worked in both systems. In the HMO, the healthier the patient is the more money the doctor makes. The most succinct statement of the problem I have yet seen came across my desk today. It is a one page regular column in the "New Realities" monthly Journal (October), by Norman Shealy, MD,(plus more other degrees than you would imagine--chief neurosurgeon at the largest hospital in Springfield, Missouri--AMA member & Founding President of the American Holistic Medical Association). Why not do yourself a favor and read it. Then tell me what you think. The system must change. The main beneficiary of this change is the individual whose health is at stake. Those who choose to transcend the present system can do so with what is already known. Those who choose to wait longer are perfectly welcome to do so. After all, what would happen to the "disease" system if the total expenditures in the field were cut by $600,000,000,000 within the next two years (which is well within the realm of present knowledge)? CHAOS! People will get what they deserve. I will accept what comes to me. People deserve the right to choose their system. My efforts, in my life, my profession & here on the net are to do my best to place the fact of the alternative on the table. From that point it is up to each individual. The old paradigm is simplistic, comfortable (until one personally has to rely on it--except for trauma and infections) & still accepted by the majority [though shrinking] of "authorities". Those who place their faith in "authorities" usually opt to let others do their thinking for them in the mistaken belief that they can hire someone else to take care of them. The new paradigm REQUIRES that the individual think for him or herself (a very uncomfortable state of affairs until a certain level of basic information has been assimilated). There is too much to know for me to put it on the net. Those unwilling to do some studying will just have to wait till the truth is painfully obvious to most people. If Byron Howes chooses to be suspicious because there is too much data to put on the net, so be it. just stand at the newsstand and read it. Tell me how much you disagree with. -- cbosgd!ukma!wws(Walt Stoll) YOU Walt Stoll, MD, ABFP Founder & Medical Director ARE MORE Holistic Medical Centre 1412 North Broadway Lexington, Kentucky 40505 THAN YOU THINK (606) 233-4273 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com