Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mcnc.mcnc.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!mcnc!bch From: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: Purging Stoll and his kind Message-ID: <824@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 21-Sep-85 11:09:38 EDT Article-I.D.: mcnc.824 Posted: Sat Sep 21 11:09:38 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Sep-85 07:46:16 EDT References: <2172@ukma.UUCP> <813@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> <272@bbncc5.UUCP> <2221@ukma.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Distribution: na Organization: North Carolina Educational Computing Service Lines: 59 Summary: In article <2221@ukma.UUCP> wws@ukma.UUCP (Bill Stoll) writes: >Twice now, Steve has ridiculed something I have placed on the net; >only to have strong evidence to the contrary be published within a few >days of his unsupported position. Garbage, Walt, and you know it! When you stop misrepresenting facts I *might* begin to take you seriously. So long as you continue to deceive, distort and downright lie to promote your position, you are going to have to expect that folks will be suspicious of what you say. I don't want to purge you, I want you to stop trying to deal of the bottom of the (possibly incomplete) deck. >Sorry Steve, you're going to have to work harder and harder to ignore >what is rushing, like an avalanche, into all our lives. Just today, >in one of the many Medical Journals I read every day, in the special >section called Medical Ethics (appropriate, I think), Thomas Preston, >MD, Professor of Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine >& Chief of Cardiology at Pacific Medical Center, joined my side. In a >one page statement,"Palliative Care No Match for Prevention of >Disease", one more outstanding clinician points out exactly my >position: Reference--Medical World News/September 9, 1985 (page 19). Sure, Walt. All AMA-type physicians were/are against prevention so they can make big bucks providing useless cures. Nobody ever looked at stress as a causative factor in disease until the holistic physicians came around, nobody was ever aware of dietary factors in disease until holistic physicians came to be and nobody knew about the relationship between diet and mood until holistic physicians discovered it. (The above paragraph is to be read with heavy sarcastic tones.) >Even the AMA has already reached the last of the four societel >responses. In American Medical News/September 13, 1985, the >announcement is made that the third special supplement to Newsweek by >the AMA appears in the Sept. 9th edition, titled: "To your health! >Building and keeping a healthy body." The supplement covers such >topics as nutrition, exercise, and disease prevention. The only >professional national medical organization that specializes in this >field is the American Holistic Medical Association (AHMA). For the >past 7 years, since the beginning of the AHMA, the AMA has done as >much as it legally could to stifle it. The very things the AMA is now >claiming for its own has been practiced for many years by Holistic >Medical Practitioners. Of course, the AHMA is now practicing an >advanced form of what was known 7 years ago. It will be years before >the conventional medical practitioner catches up though catch up they >will eventually. It should already be considered malpractice to offer >less than is known. Eventually that may be what forces many MDs to go >back to learn all this new stuff. You read it here folks. Say, Walt, how come I learned all of these things in elementary school -- before the American Holistic Medical Association came to be. Looks to me like the situation is reversed: you, in the name of the AHMA, are claiming for your own the very thing that have been practiced for years by members of the AMA. Again, this is a false repre- sentation and you probably know it! -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com