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From: bmw@aesat.UUCP (Bruce Walker)
Newsgroups: net.micro
Subject: Re: NEC V20 ---> 8088
Message-ID: <461@aesat.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 08:48:51 EDT
Article-I.D.: aesat.461
Posted: Mon Sep 16 08:48:51 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 16-Sep-85 09:35:51 EDT
References: <1438@brl-tgr.ARPA>
Reply-To: bmw@aesat.UUCP (Bruce Walker)
Organization: AES Data Inc., Mississauga Ont., Canada
Lines: 54
Keywords: V20,8088,piracy
Summary: 

In article <1438@brl-tgr.ARPA> GUBBINS@RADC-TOPS20.ARPA (Gern) writes:
> 
> I have a few comments on the NEC V20 'improved' 8088.

And I have a few comments about these comments.

	[stuff removed...]
> NEC has been producing 8088 CPUs for some time now - AND THEY DO NOT
> HAVE A LICENSE FROM INTEL TO DO SO (At least the last time I checked).
> Downright illegal.
	[...]
>                                          Currently Intel is tring to sue
> NEC and I hope that they win.
	[...]
> With all the Software anti-piracy discussions going on over these nets,
> we now have a case of hardware piracy right in front of us.
	[...]
> I have never liked the quality of NEC ICs, I replaced the NEC 8088 in
> my Z-100 with an Intel 8088 (8MHz too) as soon as I got it.  Later
> I learned about their 8088 design piracy, and I disliked NEC even more.
> I rate NEC products right down beside Sanyo (Sell trash cheap, make money
> off Americans).
> 
> I for one am not going to support NEC, or any company that pulls these
> pirates, no matter what the lower cost or increase in product function.
> I thought you just might want to know this information.
> 
> Even still, I wouldn't put a CMOS part in my Z-100 no matter who made it.
> 
> Flames welcomed.

The truth of this business is that everybody copies everybody else, either
illicitly or licitly.  When you took out your immoral NEC 8088 I hope you
also took out your NEC uPD765A floppy disk controller.  Oh, OH!! Don't try
to replace it with an Intel i8272.  Sorry, that is a "second source" of the
NEC part.  NEC, who designs "cheap trash", designed that part and Intel
liked it so much they make them too.  IBM liked it so much they designed it
in and sell 100K's of them.  Give me more of this "cheap trash".

How many other parts in your computer are copies of the original?  What about
the computer itself?  Did Heath/Zenith ask permission of IBM to blatantly steal
the architectural designs of the IBM PC and build a "clone"?  Hmmmm?

The remark about CMOS borders on non-sequiter.  What the hell would a CMOS IC
do to your Z100?  Has CMOS got AIDS or something?  Seriously, have you got a
real-time clock in your Z100?  If so, then you've got CMOS (oh no! :-)  It's
pretty hard to get along without that particular technology.


Bruce Walker     {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!aesat!bmw

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