Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site terak.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.arch,net.micro.6809 Subject: Re: Architecture, or Coincidence? Message-ID: <740@terak.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Sep-85 14:02:40 EDT Article-I.D.: terak.740 Posted: Fri Sep 27 14:02:40 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Oct-85 11:24:37 EDT References: <482@ihwpt.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Calcomp Display Products Division, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 34 Xref: linus net.micro:10898 net.arch:1617 net.micro.6809:487 > Is this just cultural coincidence, or was there a hardware > reason for the following: In home computers, descendants of > the 8080 have aimed at "serious business" TEXT-ONLY applications, > whereas the 6800's descendants' machines have featured > bit-mapped color graphics and sound to a much greater extent. I doubt that anyone knows "for sure" how this situation came about, but here's my understanding... The 2-phase bus nature of the 6502-type chips was indeed a big influence in their use on "color" systems. Perhaps equally as important, the 6502 was introduced at the unheard-of price of $25, when 8080's were still going for $150. What the 8080 (and later, the Z80) had going for it was, simply put, "floppy disks". For the "high-rolling" computer hobbyist who could afford to play with floppy disks, the extra hundred bucks for an 8080 was unimportant. And they could also afford the (not very cheap at the time) Western Digital floppy disk controller chips. These FDC's were easy to connect to the 8080, but relatively difficult to connect to the 6502. The bigger bucks bought much faster data transfer rates. And those transfer rates made it possible to write "real" operating systems like CP/M and TRSDOS, and to develop applications which used significant amounts of disk data. Put this all together, and you get two very different kinds of systems. Low cost systems with cassette (or, at best, very slow disks) were built around the 6502; their big drawing card was color graphics. Higher-priced systems with "real" disks were based around the 8080; their big drawing card was performance on any application that used disk heavily, especially for data storage. Applications like word processing and databases. -- Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {calcom1,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com