Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site harvard.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!tomczak From: tomczak@harvard.ARPA (Bill Tomczak) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.nlang.africa Subject: Re: Two films on the !Kung Message-ID: <367@harvard.ARPA> Date: Sat, 21-Sep-85 01:53:12 EDT Article-I.D.: harvard.367 Posted: Sat Sep 21 01:53:12 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Sep-85 06:36:08 EDT References: <539@im4u.UUCP> <542@im4u.UUCP> Reply-To: tomczak@harvard.UUCP (Bill tomczak) Organization: Aiken Computation Laboratory, Harvard Lines: 38 Xref: watmath net.movies:7730 net.nlang.africa:124 Summary: In article <542@im4u.UUCP> jsq@im4u.UUCP (John Quarterman) writes: >As I pointed out to Prentiss earlier today, the same criticisms >apply to The Emerald Forest and Gone with the Wind. I liked >the former and detest the latter. I just saw "The Gods Must Be Crazy" and "Emerald Forest" within two days of each other this week and have found the discussion on these films in this group very interesting. Now..... I liked both of these films with certain reservations, expecially in the case of Emerald Forest. I was actually a little surprised at the criticism of Gods. This may reflect some considerable ignorance on my part concerning the situation in South Africa. Actually, it never ocurred to me to connect Apartheid to the locale of Gods. (I SAID I was ignorant! no flames please). In comparing Gods and Forest my reaction was that at least in Gods the natives were treated with some respect. They were pictured as peace loving and at one with the world around them. The fact that this flies in the face of their situation because of apartheid was not good news to me. The political aspects of this movie become sinister indeed. However, apart from the political implications of the movie, I still feel that the !kung were accorded respect as a community. Now Emerald Forest, on the other hand seemed to do all it could to clean up, caricature and otherwise make the native cultures palatable to a yuppie American audience. I saw this movie with a friend who knew a little about the culture of the "Fierce People". They in particular seemed totally stripped of any respectability. The ceremonies of the "Invisible People" seemed to me very white-ified. I know nothing of the cultures of these peoples, but after working only a little with the folk arts of various cultures, the only time I've seen that clean of even ritual choreography was done on a stage for an audience. In spite of this, I liked the theme of the movie and the message it seemed to be getting across. Sorry this is so long.... Bill tomczak@harvard.{ARPA, UUCP} Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com