Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site mcnc.mcnc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!bch From: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Newsgroups: net.movies Subject: Film Criticism Message-ID: <826@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 00:55:35 EDT Article-I.D.: mcnc.826 Posted: Mon Sep 23 00:55:35 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Sep-85 03:17:24 EDT References: <1194@mtgzz.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@mcnc.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Distribution: net Organization: North Carolina Educational Computing Service Lines: 36 Summary: This subject seems to make the rounds every year or so in net.movies. Frankly, I've never understood the position of those who claim to abhor film critics. A film critic doesn't tell you, most of the time, whether or not you will enjoy a film. The film critic tells you whether the film passes a set of critical standards. These standards may be arbitrary, but for good critics they are at least clear. You can make your own mind up as to whether they apply to you or not, much as you can with the product reviews in Consumer Reports. Bad reviewers/critics (the borderline is fuzzy here) tell you whether or not they liked a film, but without either comparison or standards. I would agree with Kelvin Thompson here, such reviews are useless. Good reviewers like Frank Rich, Siskel/Ebert, Judith Crist and even Joe-Bob (or should I say especially Job-Bob, I never read a column of his that wasn't based around a truly excellent review of the film he was writing about) tell you about the film, where it fits with films of its genre, what worked and what didn't. Nobody presumes to tell you what you should and shouldn't like -- that is your inference. We are fortunate that we have two individuals, Mark Leeper and Peter Reiher, who are excellent critics and who freely contribute to the discussion here. Both are knowledgeable about film, both have a good sense of the historical continuity of films and film-making and both have a reasonably good grasp of the analytical process that needs to be undertaken in reviewing a film. There are many professional film critics who could learn from these two. I don't always agree with them, but I have always found the information they supplied to be consistantly good. As for Kelvin Thompson's reviews, I stopped reading them as there was very little film reviewing going on undeneath all the satire. For it to be funny, satire has to be based on some grain of truth. -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com