Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtgzz.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtgzz!seb From: seb@mtgzz.UUCP (s.e.badian) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Instrumental vs. vocal popular music(rating records,really) Message-ID: <1192@mtgzz.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Sep-85 15:04:46 EDT Article-I.D.: mtgzz.1192 Posted: Fri Sep 20 15:04:46 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Sep-85 04:37:19 EDT References: <1477@brl-tgr.ARPA>, <612@grkermi.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Middletown NJ Lines: 40 Frank Zappa is not the only rock star to come out against the rating system. Frank spoke in front of Congress yesterday (in a suit and tie, no less). Two members from Twisted Sister were also there (in their usual strange garb). Unfortunately I didn't get to hear what they had to say since I was on the phone at the time. I also heard that a number of rock stars have formed an organization to fight this thing. Names I heard were Tina Turner and Cyndi Lauper. One of my friends contends that as soon as you rate records teenagers will be sure to buy any record that has the worst rating just to make sure they catch the bad words, Satanist references and generally anti-social lyrics. To a large extent teenagers can't understand the words well enough and if they can get the words don't necessarily know what they mean. The song "She Bop" by Cyndi Lauper is a wonderful example. Has great, catchy lyrics. Great to dance to. So how many teenagers actually know what it means? How many adults know what it means?? From my informal study, most of the people I know did not know what that song was really about. Now you slap a sticker on Cyndi's ablum that says this album contains objectionable material and you can be damn sure those teenagers will find out why it's objectionable! I think the idea stinks. I don't like some of the lyrics in some of the songs out there, but I don't think you should rate albums. Next they'll want to rate books. (Maybe they don't worry about that since they don't know that their kids read Harold Robbins, etc.) I think these movements are just excuses for parents. It's so easy for a parent to say "Look how screwed up my children are! It's no wonder when they listen to this evil stuff." Most teenagers are not as impressionable as we believe. They get their value systems from their parents, not records. If you manage to keep your kids from listening to this terrible music and they still turn out to be delinquents, who will you blame next? Sharon Badian ihnp4!mtgzz!seb ...we got to install some microwave ovens, custom kitchen delivery. we got to move these refrigerators, we got to move these color tv's... Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com