Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site klipper.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep From: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: 2+1/2 page of (more or less) useful, interesting & relevant remarks. Message-ID: <499@klipper.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 17:50:06 EDT Article-I.D.: klipper.499 Posted: Tue Sep 17 17:50:06 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Sep-85 06:39:18 EDT Reply-To: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) Distribution: net Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam Lines: 50 Keywords: password [] Why not give Pnews/postnews/whatever other program a password, and publish that in net.announce.newusers. Then those who haven't read that don't know the password. Pnews/etc. will tell where they can find the password. If necessary it might be changed (by a control message), so that all old timers are forced to reread the stuff. (I myself don't like that, by the way). The promised other remarks: 1) There is a limited capacity for newstransmission, or so it seems. people, especially libertarians and other net people hate anything which doesn't look like free market/anarchy. So: bandwith has to be sold. Every user gets, say, 100 centi- votes, which he may spread according to his liking over the rest of the net community. Anybody may post according to the number of votes he gets. Implementation details will be skipped due to probable impossibility, but stuff in mod.control might be useful. At least, non-read ramblings will be reduced. 2) net.announce.newusers is lacking a "historical guide to USENET". USENET is a network which exists by grace of its history. if Gene and Chuq and Mark and Larry and Rich (random order) weren't known by the masses, if one hasn't followed the discussions of why it may be catastrophal to post articles like this, which clutter up net space, if one hasn't read about Lauren, his stargate project, and the net.fascism discussions, one cannot be expected to stay within the net traditions. The historical facts, problems, delicate points etc. have to be explained. 3) I would have liked to restrict the distribution of this message to {eur, na}. Why has anything which gets out of Europe to go to four continents? 4) Chuq, you seem to like facts more than you dislike calculating. How much does a netwide article cost (base + per byte)? Gene, could that info be included in the net.announce.new- users info? Larry, could it be included in Pnews? I hope I did well in putting all those little remarks in one article... -- Biep. {seismo|decvax|philabs|garfield|okstate}!mcvax!vu44!biep Some mazes (especially small ones) have no solutions. -- man 6 maze Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com