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From: tp@ndm20
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Subject: Re: A proposal for a modified voting ru
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Date: Sun, 22-Sep-85 17:48:00 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep 22 17:48:00 1985
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>> I propose the following rule -- each site can generate a weighted vote
>> on any subject. The weight of the vote is equal to the number of
>> OUTGOING news feeds a site supports.  This means that a backbone such
>
>YES! As a leaf site administrator, I hereby vote to disenfranchise myself.

So do I, because it makes sense.  Forget the transitive closure stuff
though, because as someone said, you can't determine  it from current
net  topology.    Besides,  the  only measure  of how  much each site
supports  the  net  is  the  number  of  full  outgoing  news  feeds,
regardless  of  machine  size  or  number of  users.   The only other
variable could be whether the feeds are long distance.

As a leaf SA, I can control what  comes in  by only  carrying what my
site wants.  As a matter of fact, I already do this, because we don't
have the disc space to support a full feed.

>on this.  Certainly we don't want to make the site administrator the
>"elector" for a site (i.e., the SA decides for him/herself what the
>vote shall be).  Does the SA become the local vote counter, and the

Au contraire.  The SA should be the only person to cast  such a vote.
How the vote is taken internal to that site depends on the site.  The
SA is responsible to  his management  for maintaining  the system and
allocating machine resources.  The users aren't.   If  the SA decides
or is told that such a group shall not/should  not be  carried by his
site, nobody external to his site has the right to say otherwise.  If
his users disagree with his policies, that also is an internal matter
and should not be interfered with by the  net.   He can  take a vote,
ask  the  responsible  users  for  their  opinions,  or determine his
decision in any way that makes sense for his environment.  

The size of a site makes no difference  in terms  of how  much a site
supports the net, only the number of full  feeds, so  feeding a micro
ought to count for just as  much as  feeding a  major corporation one
removed from the backbone, with a 500  machine internal  network.  If
the corporation has no  outgoing feeds,  they don't  support the net.
If the micro feeds another micro, he does.  

Terry Poot
Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers
(214)739-4741
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