Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cuae2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!cuae2!heiby From: heiby@cuae2.UUCP (Heiby) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: What newsgroups are *really* needed? Message-ID: <468@cuae2.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 14:37:15 EDT Article-I.D.: cuae2.468 Posted: Wed Oct 2 14:37:15 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Oct-85 06:15:39 EDT References: <2242@ukma.UUCP> <996@druky.UUCP> Reply-To: heiby@cuae2.UUCP (Heiby) Organization: AT&T, /app/eng, Lisle, IL Lines: 26 In article <996@druky.UUCP> krahl@druky.UUCP (R.H. Krahl) writes: >Boy David! This sounds *real* grim. Do I have this right?...To lower the >phone bill, you want to do away with groups that either have low volume or >(in your opinion) low quality???? I think the point that krahl missed is that David posted a list of newsgroups that were candidates for HIS SITE to stop supporting. He is in the process of finding out whether anyone on HIS SITE can make a case for keeping any of the groups. I did the exact same thing on one machine I administer news on a few months ago, cut the disk space used by about 20%, and the space used is currently higher than it was before trimming groups that NO ONE ON MY SITE WANTED. I am administering news on a smaller machine now, as well. The machine has a total of 102Meg of disk space and we get very few groups to start with. Do the news administrators have the right to stop supporting groups that should be mailing lists (low volume) or moderated but aren't (low quality)? You're damn right, we do. If my users can't get their work done because netnews is tying up too much disk space, or too many cycles, or too many hours on the FOUR incoming or ONE outgoing lines on the system, we won't support ANY groups at all. Even in some parts of AT&T, the budget allotment for netnews is ZERO dollars. If krahl wants to pass around a lot of crap with his cycles and dialers, fine. I'll pass, thank you. -- Ron Heiby {NAC|ihnp4}!cuae2!heiby Moderator: mod.newprod & mod.unix AT&T-IS, /app/eng, Lisle, IL (312) 810-6109 "No; my legs are written in a functional programming language." (J. McKie) Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com