Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site mirror.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!mirror!ljd From: ljd@mirror.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Pray, Praying, Prayer Message-ID: <10100007@mirror.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 13:14:00 EDT Article-I.D.: mirror.10100007 Posted: Tue Sep 24 13:14:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Sep-85 06:25:11 EDT References: <298@ihnet.UUCP> Lines: 20 Nf-ID: #R:ihnet:-29800:mirror:10100007:000:930 Nf-From: mirror!ljd Sep 24 13:14:00 1985 > /* Written 10:53 am Sep 19, 1985 by eklhad@ihnet in mirror:net.nlang */ > /* ---------- "Pray, Praying, Prayer" ---------- */ > ... You "pray", thus saying a "prayer"? > Did this "prayer" come from the days when only the priest > (whoever) could read the Bible and talk to God, > and therefore, you went to the temple to hear a pray-er (one who prays)? > Perhaps the meaning shifted, making "prayer" the thing that was said instead > of the one who was saying it. Just a hypothesis. > Are there any other object-style nouns produced by "verb"er? > Anyone know the real answers? > -- > This .signature file intentionally left blank. > Karl Dahlke ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad > /* End of text from mirror:net.nlang */ Sorry, but "prayer" does not come from "pray" + "er". In fact, it doesn't come from the English word "pray" at all, but from the French "priere". Consult the OED for fuller etymologies of "prayer" and "pray". Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com