Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 UW 5/3/83; site uw-june Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!uw-june!gordon From: gordon@uw-june (Gordon Davisson) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Dinosaurs in Distress Message-ID: <256@uw-june> Date: Fri, 20-Sep-85 02:24:19 EDT Article-I.D.: uw-june.256 Posted: Fri Sep 20 02:24:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Sep-85 04:02:16 EDT References: <369@cornell.UUCP> <241@uw-june> <845@mit-vax.UUCP> Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 45 >>>[Michael I. Schwartzbach] >>> Now, on the hemisphere closest to >>> Saturn gravity would indeed be lower, but on the far side gravity >>> would in the same manner be much higher (right?). >>[Gordon Davisson] >>Nope. You're forgetting that up is the opposite direction on the far >>side of the earth, so the 'felt effect' of gravity is low at both the >>near and far ends, and normal on the great circle halfway between them. >[Charles Forsythe] >I think you made a mistake. "Up" is in the OPPOSITE direction, but the >gravity vectors from Saturns gravitational feild are in the SAME >direction, so that feild would ADD to gravity rather than SUBTRACTING >from it. (Or do gravity feild-line passing through a sphere of mass >reverse? :-) Tides are caused by the difference in the sun/moon/saturn/Tide-Causing- Body's gravitational field: it's stronger the nearer you are to the TCB, so I assumed Michael had thought (as I had, before someone corrected me) that it was in one direction on one side of the earth and the other way on the other side. This is in fact correct: things on the near side of the planet see a tidal 'force' toward the TCB, and things on the far side see a 'force' away from the TCB. But since up is also opposite for opposite sides of the planet, both sides see the tidal 'force' as up. It having been pointed out that the other mistake (thinking the tidal 'force' was always toward the TCB) is actually more reasonable (and maybe even more likely), I can see how my comments might easily have confused someone. Sorry about that... I guess I like Wayne Throop's description best: when you're on the near end, you fall toward the TCB; when you're on the far end, the planet falls toward the TCB (and thus away from you). >(I really hate to correct someone who's correcting Ted...) I, on the other hand, just *love* correcting people who're correcting me. :-) -- Human: Gordon Davisson ARPA: gordon@uw-june.ARPA UUCP: {ihnp4,decvax,tektronix}!uw-beaver!uw-june!gordon Bitnet: gordon@uwaphast Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com