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From: hua@cmu-cs-edu1.ARPA (Ernest Hua)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Christianity vs Evolution
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Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 18:35:04 EDT
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Just some quick responses here.  If you respond, please post to net.religion,
and I will look for it there.

> { From: feikema@mmm.UUCP (John Feikema) }
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> > Religions conflict with science in, among other things, that they freely
> > recognize the magical and the supernatural as real entities some times
> > using them as foundations.
>
> ... Religion (at least Christianity) doesn't freely recognize the majical
> and supernatural as real entities, at least not in the sense that I think
> you mean.

Agreed.  I really meant to say that by allowing for supernatural entities,
religions conflict with science.

> Christianity is based on the fact that an omnipotent being, GOD, created
> the world.  This creation was not "outside" of physical laws.

That's quite an assumption ... that a "GOD" created the world ... more
specifically, that "He" created it with laws that "He" designed ... that
these laws still exist ...?  What evidence do you have to support this?

> Miracles, and even original human thought is merely evidence that the
> laws of physics that GOD wrote, are orders of magnitute above our present
> understanding and perhaps even our ability to understand (although I
> certainly advocate trying) the real fabric of the universe.

If these laws are "orders magnitude above our present understanding", how
do you expect anyone to be able to figure out that they exist?  What kind
of evidence could possibly support the existence of laws beyond our under-
standing?

You have already assumed that God exists, of course, which is not support-
able by science by any means (certainly not the Christian God which you
mostly likely speak of).  Remember ... if God created physical laws, he
must be able to circumvent them or make up new ones.  If this is really
the case, then science has no value whatsoever as it cannot discover any
real useful information that will most likely apply beyond the next moment.
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