Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site l5.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!well!ptsfa!l5!laura From: laura@l5.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: THe Moral Value of Conformity Message-ID: <120@l5.uucp> Date: Sun, 15-Sep-85 13:46:32 EDT Article-I.D.: l5.120 Posted: Sun Sep 15 13:46:32 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Sep-85 05:26:04 EDT References: <1647@pyuxd.UUCP> <1524@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1672@pyuxd.UUCP> Reply-To: laura@l5.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Ell-Five [Consultants], San Francisco Lines: 38 = I'll go slow. By being what others would like you to be rather than being what you yourself would like to be (or being/doing what you need to be/do), you are acting against your own self-interest. It's that simple. It is precisely because I (and you) don't know what's best for everyone that individual self-development is what I support instead the repugnant notion that conformity is a worthwhile thing. Conformity is a trade-off you choose to make or not make, but it is certainly not in your interest, and advertising it as such as deceptive. (Which is of course what certain religions do.) [ROSEN] Rich, I think your heart is on the right place, but you have stuffed 2 notions together wich cannot be stuffed. If, in conforming, you are acting against your own self interest, then we will agree that this conforming is bad. [However, I would conclude, not that conforming is repugnant, but that the more general not acting in your own self interest is repugnant.] However, I think that to conform or not to conform is a trade-off which you make and which you should always make in your perceived self-interest. [Actually, you should always make in your self-interest, but all you have to go on is what you perceive, using perceive in its wide sense.] Conforming to somebody else's coding style may stick in your craw for a while, but it is probably in your self interest since it will keep your bosses, co-workers and whoever else maintains your code (customers) happy and this will be good for you (as compared to making your bosses, co-workers and whoever maintains your code miserable). Of course, if writing code in your own style rather than the preferred style is that important to you (or gets to be that important to you) you can always find a new job, or make extensive hacks to cb and use it or fight management for the right to use your own coding style. *But* -- all of these take work and time which you could spend doing something else. So, if you decide to do this then there will be other areas of your life which do not get your attention -- and (as an exercise left to the reader) this is the tough part about determining what is in your self-interest. -- Laura Creighton (note new address!) sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen) l5!laura@lll-crg.arpa Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com