Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: THe Moral Value of Conformity Message-ID: <1715@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 00:02:00 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1715 Posted: Tue Sep 17 00:02:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Sep-85 03:07:46 EDT References: <1622@pyuxd.UUCP> <1472@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1647@pyuxd.UUCP> <648@mmintl.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 30 > Rich argues that the desire to conform is purely the result of > indoctrination. This does not seem to me to be correct; I think there > is an intrinsic desire to conform. This is a psychological issue, not > a philosophic one. [ADAMS] Intrinsic? Or rooted in that societal pressure and indoctrination? > In terms of morals, I would give much greater importance to independence > and/or freedom than to conformity. I would assign a zero or negative > value to conformity, however. Hear, hear! > There are certain instances where conformity has strong value. Which side > of the road one drives on, for example. In other cases, the value is > similar, but much less; one knows what to expect and can deal with it > more easily. This potentially helps both the person conforming and the > other person, since one may be harmed (ranging from annoyance on up) by > inappropriate behavior by those around us. Let me emphasize that I believe > this is generally of truly minor import, and of considerably less importance > than, for example, personal whim. But there are cases covering the whole > spectrum. I think we can distinguish between conventions adhered to for things like safety reasons (like driving regulations) and conforming to the exclusion of self-expression solely for the purpose of conforming. -- Meanwhile, the Germans were engaging in their heavy cream experiments in Finland, where the results kept coming out like Swiss cheese... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com