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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: Causality vs the New Order
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Date: Sat, 21-Sep-85 16:55:46 EDT
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>>> You postulate that all those who believe in free will believe that some
>>> outside agent (their soul) is responsible for some of the actions in 3 or 4
>>> or 5.  Therfore you think that all those who believe in free will also
>>> believe in souls.

>>All those who believe in free will must of necessity and implication believe
>>in souls.  There is of course nothing to stop a person from holding two
>>contradictory beliefs...

>     Horsefeathers! You have only shown that YOUR definition of free will
>     (spontaneous behavior) is not consistent with the decrepit a priori
>     assertion:
> 
>        All actions are totally determined by antecedent causes

Which is supported both by scientific study and by many of the philosophers
you quoted in your last article, whom you use as "ammunition".

>>...It's just a sign that they haven't thought things through.

>     As a libertarian (=freewiller), I take that as an insult!

Now you know how your choice of words sounds to me.  You could of course,
show me how you HAVE thought these things through rather than just asserting
that you haven't.  Your avoidances of consequences and implications of
beliefs has been astounding.
-- 
"to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day
 to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human
 being can fight and never stop fighting."  - e. e. cummings
	Rich Rosen	ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr


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