Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: THe Moral Value of Conformity Message-ID: <748@psivax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 16:09:27 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.748 Posted: Tue Sep 24 16:09:27 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 05:51:58 EDT References: <1622@pyuxd.UUCP> <1472@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1647@pyuxd.UUCP> <97@l5.uucp> <734@psivax.UUCP> <1747@pyuxd.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 26 In article <1747@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: > >This sounds like a good excuse for encouraging conformity, but surely >not a very good reason for doing so. Sounds like a rationalization to me. >Because we need "reassurance and affirmation", we "should" be like >other people in order to get those things. Why do you ignore the fact that >people learn the process of accepting, reassuring, and affirming people >"like" them, when they could just as easily learn to accept people on an >individual basis? All you are saying is that the current status quo is >that "being like other people" is a positive social survival trait because >people have learned to value likeness in other people rather than individuality You have misunderstood what I was getting at. I did not intend imply any *moral* justification here, I was trying to specify the *cause* of the tendency to conform in people. We tend to conform not because we *ought* to but because our emotional drives make it very difficult *not* to adjust behavior to other people's expectations. I was saying that eliminating conformity is essentially impossible because the drives towards it are built right into our emotional structure. No moral judgement was intended. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com