Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site teddy.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!talcott!panda!teddy!rdp From: rdp@teddy.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: the multi-body problem Message-ID: <1330@teddy.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 12:53:16 EDT Article-I.D.: teddy.1330 Posted: Mon Sep 23 12:53:16 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Sep-85 12:14:59 EDT Reply-To: rdp@teddy.UUCP (Richard D. Pierce) Distribution: na Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 38 [] This is quest for some general information. One often hears that the two-body problem (two bodies interacting gravitationally) is completely solvable (I guess that means that one can completely describe the motions and ineteractions of these two bodies in an isolated system), but when the problem involves any more tha two bodies (3 or "many"), then there does not exist a known solution for describing the system completely. About this I have several questions: 1. Why is the three- or many-bodied problem unsolvable? (Note I realize that, given the asccuracy with which we can navigate about the solar system, then the problem, while unsolved, is approachable with some spectacularily good approximations). 2. Do the three-body problems apply for systems where the mass of one of the bodies is vanishingly small compared to the others (such as in a Voyager/Jupiter/Sun system)? 3. Since general relativity seems to approach gravitation not as a force acting over a distance, but more as a deformation in the geometry of space-time (a wild simplification, I agree), can the three- (or many-) bodied problem be solved as a geometry problem? In other words, is the difficulty associated with a Newtonian view of gravity and the attendant mechanisms, or does general relativity suffer the same way? 4. Is the solution to all this merely one of computational fortitude? (Has JPL solved the problem simply by brute force, or has the brute force merely made their approximations less approximate?) AN ensuing discussion might be of value, unless the answer is really very simple and obvious, which it does not seem to be. Dick Pierce Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com