Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!mcgeer From: mcgeer@ucbvax.ARPA (Rick McGeer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <10403@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 15:10:20 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10403 Posted: Mon Sep 16 15:10:20 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Sep-85 03:02:17 EDT References: <91@decwrl.UUCP> <7800426@inmet.UUCP> Reply-To: mcgeer@ucbvax.UUCP (Rick McGeer) Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 30 In article <7800426@inmet.UUCP> porges@inmet.UUCP writes: > >[Is bug?] > >>Even Pearl Harbor was only an attack on a military >>base, not an invasion or an attack on civilian targets. Civilian >>casualties at Pearl Harbor were very small. No living American has >>experienced an invasion of America. > > Not only was Pearl Harbor a (mostly) military target, but in 1941 >Hawaii was not officially part of the United States, being rather a >territory that the US captured in the Spanish-American War, a war that >is not currently considered one of our most moral moments. Furthermore, >fewer people were killed in the sneak attack on the fleet than would >have been killed if those same ships had been sunk at sea, since most >of the crew members weren't on the ships but ashore. Not that I exactly >take the side of the Japanese in WWII... > -- Don Porges > ...harpo!inmet!porges > ...hplabs!sri-unix!cca!ima!inmet!porges > ...yale-comix!ima!inmet!porges As I recall, Hawaii was a British colony (the Sandwich Islands) before we got them: that's why the Hawaiian flag still has the Union Jack in its upper left corner. King Kamehameha the Great agreed to this in return for British help in conquering Maui, Lanai, Molokai, Oahu and Kauai. We picked it up about the turn of the century, but I think that we purchased it from Britain. -- Rick. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com