Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!yale!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Nicaraguan Parallel Message-ID: <7800435@inmet.UUCP> Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 04:55:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.7800435 Posted: Mon Sep 16 04:55:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Sep-85 04:49:01 EDT References: <7800427@inmet.UUCP> Lines: 46 Nf-ID: #R:inmet:7800427:inmet:7800435:000:1995 Nf-From: inmet!janw Sep 16 04:55:00 1985 My point has apparently been missed (at least, it was not attacked ...). It was *structural identity* of all communist - and other totalitarian - regimes. I did not quote pre-schooler drilling as a major evil, but as a *symptom*. The reasoning goes thus: a totalitarian state (by definition) enlists all the resourses of society in its service. This includes even toddlers, and by this sign you may know it. Brief review of responses: The note was not scurrilous enough for net.flame - mea culpa. My ignorance of the net was responsible. I'm moving the sequence. Cub scouts are non-compulsory, non-political, and only faintly militarized. "God Bless America" is not political, in the sense relevant here. It is a non-controversial generality. Now imagine kids chanting, say, DEATH TO DEMOCRATS; goose-stepping with wooden machine-guns to show they are serious; and children of Democrats, as everyone else, being obliged to join. That gives it a different flavor, doesn't it ? As I've said, it's *only a symptom*. Other things go with it, such as: - no dissent within the ruling Party; - secret police unchecked by any other institution but the Party; - a net of informers sufficient to report on every citizen; - Propaganda a major item of budget; - armed forces politicized; - a network of Party-affiliated organizations covering all areas of life, cradle to grave; - anti-government demonstrations (of course) made impossible, but also pro-government ones made compulsory; - censorship (of course) suppressing anti-regime information; but also *insufficiently pro-regime* information; - the country declared a military camp; - foreign connections made difficult; and so on. P.S. Larry Kolodney mentions the Young Pioneers in the USSR. He is only part right: this is for a different age group (10-14); peers couldn't care less about who joins; but official pressure is strong enough that everyone does. I should know; I've been one. Jan Wasilewsky Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com