Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!decwrl!mahoney@bach.DEC (Be verwy verwy quiet I am hunting wabbits) From: mahoney@bach.DEC (Be verwy verwy quiet I am hunting wabbits) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Hawaii Message-ID: <497@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Sep-85 10:50:28 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.497 Posted: Thu Sep 19 10:50:28 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Sep-85 07:12:04 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 45 > As I recall, Hawaii was a British colony (the Sandwich Islands) before >we got them: that's why the Hawaiian flag still has the Union Jack in its upper >left corner. King Kamehameha the Great agreed to this in return for British >help in conquering Maui, Lanai, Molokai, Oahu and Kauai. We picked it up about >the turn of the century, but I think that we purchased it from Britain. > -- Rick Hawaii was quite an independent nation when we took it over. They had A Queen who was overthrown by American Buisnessmen and Marines when she stepped on there toes. One of those Buisnessmen was Mr Dole founder of Dole Corp. The Queen (unfortunately I can't remeber how to spell her name) had a horrible idea about getting more for the people of Hawaii out of the Americans like taking some of their power and land away. What a terrible person she was for wanting to do that. Grover Cleveland tried to give the govt back to her after the coup but she wanted nothing less then the punishment of the Leaders of the reveloution. Namely Dole and company but politcally Cleveland couldn't allow that so he left those boys in charge and the created the Hawiian Republic (which was an oligrachy of the buisnessmen) which then was taken over during the Spanish American War for reasons of National Security. (Boy that pops up a lot). This sounds alot like Texas. I kind of can see why countries don't want Americans to move in. Everytime we move into a country (Mexico and Hawaii) we take them over. Remeber we stole 2/3 of Mexico's land in the great and glorious Mexican War. You say we were attacked well it is kind of funny that the guns they say were used by the Mexicans in raid couldn't have been. Why you ask because the Mexican govt never had the money to buy the guns they were to expensive. It was sort of on the same basis of what the Germans did to Poland at the start of WWII. Of course we also stole all the Land originally from the Indians. I am not berating the US even though it may sound that way. The US has a checkered past one were we have helped millions: WWII, faminine relief and other numerous things. But as a nation we have also done some pretty terrible things the wiping out of the Indians for one. I will say one thing though of all the nations on Earth I am still glad to be in the one I am so that I can talk about it both postively and negatively. For a nation as a well as people only mature when they look at both their good and bad sides. Brian Mahoney "I have been told I am bleeding heart liberal, but I still don't see any blood." Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com