Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lsuc.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!dave From: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: The REAL Final Solution Message-ID: <803@lsuc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 12:20:31 EDT Article-I.D.: lsuc.803 Posted: Tue Sep 24 12:20:31 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Sep-85 12:41:14 EDT References: <515@decwrl.UUCP> Reply-To: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 67 In article <515@decwrl.UUCP> black@pundit.DEC (Stupid Twirp) writes: > > Now, who in their right mind would move into a territory that was >completely surrounded by enemy military forces? Irregardless of how >great the claim to the land, the fact is that the Israeli UN Protectorate >is surrounded by a half-billion or so p___ed-off Arabs, each of whom is >sworn to take out a dozen or so Israelis. The fact that the Jews persisted is testimony to two things: the deep-rooted Jewish affiliation for the Land of Israel, and the stark realization that it was the absence of an independent state for the Jewish people which sealed the fate of the Jews of Europe. The Nazi policy until at least 1939 was one of expulsion, not extermination. Only when the rest of the world (including the U.S. and Canada) made it clear that they would not let Jewish refugees into their country did Hitler turn to the "Final Solution" of mass killings. > Let's face another fact-- >without the financial support and military protection of the United >States, the Israeli UN Protectorate would last about as long as a >snowball in Hell. Israel got underway in 1948 with no support whatsoever from the United States government, which imposed an arms embargo. Israel's survival in her early years was due to scrounging arms from wherever they could be found (Czechoslovakia was an early supplier), and a fighting force made up of the entire population, which knew that if Israel did not survive, there would be another mass destruction of Jews. > The Israelis have been lulled into a false sense of security--they >honestly believe that the US is going to be able to protect them militarily >for ever and a day. And at the same time, we're going to voluntarily >empty our wallets for them, because they so valiantly preserve the >"Holy Land" from the heathen hordes. What's going to happen when this is >no longer the case? The U.S. does not risk a single one of its men in defense of Israel. Yet the U.S. unquestionably benefits from the presence of Israel in the Mideast, both as a present bulwark against Soviet moves and as a possible base for U.S. operations in the Mideast, should direct involvement become necessary. > If this doesn't sound likely, tell me, then, why do the majority of the >Jews who leave the Soviet Union come to the United States, rather than to >the Israeli UN Protectorate? Maybe they know something that they don't >want to pass on to their Middle East bretheren. No, they prefer the standard of living in the U.S. and Canada. For the same reason, there are many Israelis in North America. > Consider also that the UN >that allowed the Jews to take Palestine was formed by Communist sympathizers. The UN hardly "allowed the Jews to take Palestine". The UN approved a plan to divide 23% of Palestine into two parts, one a homeland for Arabs, the other for Jews. The UN offered no support to the Jews whatsoever when the Jews followed up on the plan and formed the State of Israel. Incidentally, there is scarcely a country in the world which has not had its borders set by warfare and bloodshed. Dave Sherman Toronto -- { ihnp4!utzoo pesnta utcs hcr decvax!utcsri } !lsuc!dave Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com