Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!cbosgd!cbsck!cbscc!pmd From: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul M. Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion Subject: Re: Schools and Churches (really 'support' for areligious moral codes) Message-ID: <5956@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 08:32:40 EDT Article-I.D.: cbscc.5956 Posted: Mon Sep 23 08:32:40 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Sep-85 06:50:25 EDT References: <623@hou2g.UUCP> <5884@cbscc.UUCP> <1154@mhuxt.UUCP> Reply-To: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul M. Dubuc) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 27 Xref: linus net.politics:10475 net.religion:7347 In article <10443@ucbvax.ARPA> mcgeer@ucbvax.UUCP (Rick McGeer) writes: >In article <5935@cbscc.UUCP> pmd@cbscc.UUCP (unix-Paul Dubuc,x7836,1L244,59472) writes: >> ... >>But you already have in mind a certian set of moral codes for government to >>enforce. If government acts purely in its own interests an tramples over >>all the rights (lives and property) the people supposedly have, who is going >>to call in the police. What do you point to in order to say to that >>government that people really do have these rights and that they ought to >>be respected. What do you appeal to when the government says, "Well that's >>just your belief"? > >You appeal to the Constitution, if you have one. If you haven't, you threaten >rebellion. If that doesn't work, you rebel. I have yet to see a government >yield on a major issue to moral suasion: I have seen many fall to revolution. >I suspect, cynically, that it is the constant threat of rebellion rather than >any sense of public morality that keeps governments in check. > > Rick. In any case, you are conviced that your side (vs the government) is right and that you would be right to make the government bend to your convictions. What is the basis for that? -- Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com