Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Schools and Churches (really 'support' for areligious moral codes) Message-ID: <718@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 09:03:53 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxl.718 Posted: Wed Oct 2 09:03:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Oct-85 06:39:40 EDT References: <623@hou2g.UUCP> <5884@cbscc.UUCP> <1154@mhuxt.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.politics:11305 net.religion:7858 A point which should be made: > ..... The middle path > seems to be to restrict access to all special interest groups - KKK, > pornographers, religions, secular humanists etc. Screaming "discrimination" > here rings hollow, for just as the individual has limitations on his freedom > - one cannot kill arbitrarily - then so have the above groups. The > discrimination charge would be valid if the separate groups were denied > the right to meet together. > > There does of course remain the problem that many groups percieve restrictions > on them as being *active* support for their "opposition". Such groups include > many religious organizations where they see public schools as "pushing" > secular humanism. However, because some call themselves "secular humanists" > and associate themselves with specific ideas which are within the > domain of education, one should not interpret the educational system > as being pro-secular-humanist. > > Padraig Houlahan. One of the most immoral social institutions in my view is the institution of War. While there are in fact no "Secular Humanist" clubs (if anything I think there is a bias expressed by most individual teachers in favor of religion) there are just as concretely Junior ROTC clubs in many High Schools. These clubs, actively promoted by the public schools, teach that War is perfectly OK and simply an extension of the games played in childhood. What do Christians say about this? tim sevener whuxl!orb Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com