Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!ames!eugene From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: net.rec Subject: Re: Mountain Climbing Message-ID: <1156@ames.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 21:55:42 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.1156 Posted: Mon Sep 23 21:55:42 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 07:20:21 EDT References: <1578@utah-gr.UUCP> <808@cvl.UUCP> <1166@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 43 > > > Anybody interested in starting net.rec.climb? > > I'd be interested. But are there enough climbers out there? > > I would enjoy seeing a net.rec.climb newsgroup. I think there are > plenty of climbers out there, but they tend to keep to themselves. 1) I think there are too many news groups. We have not yet flooded net.rec [but I admit we might], 2) I am not interested in reading "What I did ..." I do not attend local Sierra Club meeting for the same reason. I just returned from climbing in CO, UT, and NV [sorry Alan, you weather postings did not reach me in time]. Anyway, what I did in CO ...... Boring, boring, boring! 3) What shall we discuss? Ethics? help? [I think the Cerro Ac* was a good example of this posting, but net.travel might be better.] We can still use net.rec. We can certainly discuss why we think we go climbing. I wrote a 124 page paper on climbing in High School [excluding figures] and I know of a book on the subject published at OSU. I suggest everybody get the ball rolling and have a discussion before doing this, like the image processing discussion on net.graphics. Other than that, I think, climbing is in many ways too personal a 'sport' to easily discuss. I am frankly surprised there is no backpacking group on the net yet there are supposed to be 10 million backpackers [I was offered a job with a new East Coast mag out of HS with the name "Backpacker." I think they've reach a point of stagnation because of a similar 'personal nature.'] The info for much of what we might discuss better appears in climbing and hiking magazines and journals or in local shops in the form of guidebooks (sic). A proposal was made in another group to talk about weather [for the reason of retirement]. In a sense, the same info can be obtained by going to a library. I get a bit of a sense of laziness on the part of some netters [not this group, don't get me wrong] to use other than electronic media for communication: like writing physical letters to one's Congressmen. In short, if you want net.rec.cl* show the need exists. --eugene miya [you know where] and Alpine Consultants Palo Alto, CA Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com