Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uwvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!seismo!uwvax!pfeiffer From: pfeiffer@uwvax.UUCP (Phil Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: net.rec.scuba Subject: Re: Regulator opinions wanted Message-ID: <329@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Sep-85 15:57:11 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.329 Posted: Thu Sep 26 15:57:11 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Oct-85 09:57:50 EDT References: <541@riccb.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 64 Four years ago, when I went shopping for regulators for the two of us, I phoned seven, eight, nine (?) shops which sold mail-order dive equipment nationwide, hoping for a price break. I ended up buying a regulator from a local store, since my instructor advised me that I'd get much better service that way. Excellent advice! Looking back, I'd say that buying your own regulator mail-order makes more sense if you're already trained in regulator repair. Otherwise, you're going to have to shop for service at some point. You'll probably get better service if you plan to rely on the shop that sold you the reg for service. You should also be able to get some advice from the salesperson on regulators. I'd also advise you to buy from a shop which acts like it wants your business -- I've found that most places do, but the first local shop that I called during my regulator hunt didn't !! (this was in the state where we lived before moving to Madison). If I'm spending $200+ on a product, then I don't want to buy from an arrogant salesperson. Also, consider buying from a place that's willing to rent equipment to you on "reasonable" notice, if you plan to do any diving locally and don't have your own weight belt yet, or wet suit, or whatever. Some shops have just enough equipment to rent to their classes, and MAYBE will rent to you if they're not conducting a checkout dive that weekend, or whatever. Now, then ... on to what I learned about specific regulators .... We bought Dacor 950 XL's partly on the advice of the saleskeeper, because she said it breathed well and had a swivel yolk. We also bought it because the places that we called consistently rated the XL among the best regulators on the market. It DOES breathe well, the swivel yolk is a nice feature, and we've had them for four years now, with no problems. Of the other recommendations I received, the one that stands out in my mind was the Sherwood Magnum. The shopkeeper whom I called in California said that the Magnum's strong point was that the 1st stage flow-balancing mechanism doesn't come in direct contact with water. This person, who also serviced regulators, said that this was a BIG plus if you were diving in environments that were hard on regulators -- like California, where sand gets in everything. The first stage "positive pressure" design is patented by Sherwood. I don't believe that anyone else makes a positive pressure regulator. I also remember that he told me that the Dacor 950 XL was a fine regulator -- that it was, in fact, being made for Dacor by Sherwood at that time. Again, this was all four years ago. I see now that Dacor is now offering lifetime warranties on new regulators (NOT available retroactively to people who already own Dacor regulators -- I wrote and asked!). One other spot of advice: spend the money for a spare second stage (octopus). Even if it means that your regulator's going to cost more than the $250 that you'd hoped to spend. --- Phil Pfeiffer I have P.A.D.I. Advanced Open Water certification and 50 hours bottom time. I'm looking forward to reading comments from the other, more experienced divers who use this network. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com