Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!pez From: pez@pyuxn.UUCP (Paul Zimmerman) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: God and suffering Message-ID: <351@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Fri, 20-Sep-85 16:54:54 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.351 Posted: Fri Sep 20 16:54:54 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Sep-85 06:05:38 EDT References: <389@decwrl.UUCP> <2203@sdcc6.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Piscataway, N.J. Lines: 20 Xref: watmath net.religion:7721 net.religion.christian:1338 Rick, Why do you so vehemently deny the God's hateful enjoyment which He gets out of your suffering? You speak of the apostle Paul saying that God reproves those He loves. Isn't that enough for you? Must you devise a bizarre ``explanation'' to account for this, instead of accepting the fact that God is evil? Is God is as powerful as you believe Him to be, then He could do anything. I can only conclude that he must enjoy the suffering we endure in His presence, since if He didn't, He could simply will it away. I contend that the fact that he doesn't will it away is proof of His evil intent. Testing our faith in God, as Peter said, produces ``righteousness.'' But what you and he call righteousness is nothing but sheepish servitude and slavery. Of course, by this definition, righteousness (whorship of the Damager-God) and sin (failure to whorship) cannot co-exist, as you say. Be well, -- Paul Zimmerman - AT&T Bell Laboratories pyuxn!pez Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com