Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!pez From: pez@pyuxn.UUCP (Paul Zimmerman) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: God and suffering Message-ID: <364@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 20:16:12 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.364 Posted: Mon Sep 30 20:16:12 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 2-Oct-85 01:26:07 EDT References: <389@decwrl.UUCP> <2203@sdcc6.UUCP> <351@pyuxn.UUCP> <328@uwvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Piscataway, N.J. Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.religion:7830 net.religion.christian:1377 Harry, You work from certain assumptions about God's nature and the nature of the universe. You say it is only possible to eliminate evil if free will is also eliminated, and that God has deemed it ``better'' to keep free will. First of all, free will is far from a proven fact. (Take a look at the dogfight between Ellis and Rosen!) It seems to me that God gives us the illusion of having free will in order to foist responsibility on us for things we do not control and then make us experience guilt about those things. So this illusion of free will is an example of God's evil, not an argument against believing in it. I am inclined to agree with Hunter Scales, that a world without evil is not only possible but feasible. But only if we rid ourselves of the influence of the evil Damager-God. Be well, -- Paul Zimmerman - AT&T Bell Laboratories pyuxn!pez Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com