Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: God and suffering Message-ID: <781@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 10:50:44 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.781 Posted: Wed Oct 2 10:50:44 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 4-Oct-85 04:23:46 EDT References: <389@decwrl.UUCP> <2203@sdcc6.UUCP> <351@pyuxn.UUCP> <2213@sdcc6.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 24 Xref: linus net.religion:7450 net.religion.christian:1356 Summary: In article <2213@sdcc6.UUCP> ix415@sdcc6.UUCP (Rick Frey) writes: > Monty Python said it simply and clearly in the ending of Time Bandits > when the child star of the movie asks why the God figure created evil > and His response (which is accurate in more abstract terms) was that it > has something to do with free-will. God doesn't want the bad part of > free-will, the death, the suffering, the separation from God, but > without the ability to choose going away from God, there's no way to > choose going to Him. You can't have one without the other. How appropriate that you select an authority on comedy to support your beliefs. :-) Even assuming that the line wasn't intended as tongue-in-cheek, it still doesn't answer the quantitative question of why there is so much evil in the world. Why couldn't a hypothetical good god have left out smallpox and a few of the others? Or even most of them? Free will bears little or no relationship to the large number of things attributed to "God's will". For example, I can choose to fornicate whether or not earthquakes kill thousands in Mexico. I can choose to fornicate whether or not a god decides to punish me harshly for it. The fact is, only a pig-god would choose to do things as noisomely as they are in the Bible and the world today. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com