Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion Subject: Re: THe Moral Value of Conformity Message-ID: <704@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 1-Oct-85 09:38:37 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.704 Posted: Tue Oct 1 09:38:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 4-Oct-85 04:26:10 EDT References: <677@mmintl.UUCP> <1786@pyuxd.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 20 Xref: linus net.philosophy:2499 net.religion:7452 In article <1786@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >There *is* an objective difference between: > 1) courtesy/politeness (mutual respect between human beings) > AND > 2) requiring/expecting/encouraging people to adhere to arbitrary > conventions in the NAME of such "politeness" or in the > name of "preserving the social order" Your definition of politeness is incorrect. Politeness is social customs which are used to show respect for other human beings. Courtesy is as you defined it. If you were to visit me wearing a coat, it would be impolite for me not to offer to take your coat and hang it up. If the social custom were to throw your coat on the floor when visiting, there would be nothing (im)polite about not offering to take it. If the social customs say that a (public) action is impolite, it *is* impolite. Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com