Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uwvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!uwvax!planting From: planting@uwvax.UUCP (W. Harry Plantinga) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: God and suffering Message-ID: <335@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 12:03:24 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.335 Posted: Thu Oct 3 12:03:24 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Oct-85 05:30:51 EDT References: <389@decwrl.UUCP> <2203@sdcc6.UUCP> <351@pyuxn.UUCP> <328@uwvax.UUCP> <364@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 13 Xref: watmath net.religion:7887 net.religion.christian:1404 Paul Zimmerman writes: > Harry, > > You work from certain assumptions about God's nature and the nature > of the universe. You say it is only possible to eliminate evil if free will > is also eliminated, and that God has deemed it ``better'' to keep free will. > First of all, free will is far from a proven fact. . . . > So this illusion of free will is an example of God's evil, not an argument > against believing in it. . . . In order to rebut your supposed proof that God is evil, it is only necessary that free will be possible, not actual. Then your "contradiction" fails. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com