Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!topaz!DP0N From: DP0N@A.CS.CMU.EDU Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: matter transmission Message-ID: <3725@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Sat, 21-Sep-85 03:37:39 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.3725 Posted: Sat Sep 21 03:37:39 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 25-Sep-85 07:42:58 EDT Sender: daemon@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 29 From: Don.Provan@A.CS.CMU.EDU you're damned right i wouldn't go to sleep. all these arguments could apply equally well if this wasn't a duplicate of me, but just a simulation. someone kills me and puts in my place a robot that acts exactly like me that they've created by observing me. noone can distinguish the robot from me. it's identical, to external observation, to the previous me. it can even have been programmed to think it's always been me and has all my memories. (Perhaps they got them out of my dead brain.) now your claim is that since this robot is indistinguishable from me, i should volunteer for the procedure. what's the difference between this simulation and a copy made on a molecule by molecule basis? again, i'm not arguing over whether anyone, including me, would be able to distinguish between the original and the copy. i just claim that the original has past into a state that can only be described as complete, irreversible death. let me say it one more way. imagine that we can make the copy without damaging the original at all. according to the arguments i'm hearing, if you shoot the original through the head, it will not experience death now, since there is a copy of it. this is plainly ridiculous. look, i'm sorry i'm shooting down this neat, often used plot device, but it's simply absurd. i'll believe matter transmission is possible. and i'll believe matter duplication is possible. but you can't convince me that matter transmission via duplication is possible. Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com