Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!columbia!topaz!BARD From: BARD@MIT-XX.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest V10 #377 Message-ID: <3772@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 12:45:38 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.3772 Posted: Tue Sep 24 12:45:38 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 06:33:53 EDT Sender: daemon@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 36 From: Bard Bloom > Good writing can be about anything; great writing could > probably be about nothing - not that this is necessarily admirable > or desirable. Hoary plot devices must be discarded, wherever they > occur. These seem inconsistent. Unless predicate calculus doesn't apply to criticism, (Good writing can be about anything) ==> (good writing can use a hoary plot device.) Kind of like _Paradise_Lost_ and the writings of James Branch Cabell and lots of others. Perhaps Tucker meant, ``Hoary plot devices should be used with caution.'' > Real people don't expostulate for pages, like > Jubal Harshaw or Lazarus Long or Davis Tucker? I know several people who do expostulate for hours, and sound very much like Lazarus Long (except less competant). > As a concrete suggestion, I think more works > by South American surrealist authors, of whom there are many, should > be published in science fiction magazines and by science fiction > publishing houses - and don't condemn it as boring literature, or > highbrow, because much of it is exuberant, interesting, and > well-written. I only know of Borges, and would very much like names of others. Especially if their works are available in translation. Pax VAXque vobiscum, Bard ------- Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com