Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe From: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: matter transmission and duplication Message-ID: <735@ttidcc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Sep-85 13:37:06 EDT Article-I.D.: ttidcc.735 Posted: Fri Sep 27 13:37:06 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Oct-85 07:30:33 EDT References: <3617@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <109@netex.UUCP> Reply-To: hollombe@ttidcb.UUCP (The Polymath) Organization: The Cat Factory Lines: 55 Summary: In article <109@netex.UUCP> ewiles@netex.UUCP (Ed Wiles) writes: >In article <3617@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>, DP0N@A.CS.CMU.EDU writes: >> From: Don.Provan@CMU-CS-A > >> you can walk into a disintegrator beam and have a copy of you made >> on another planet if you want, but i'm fond of this particular copy >> of myself. > >I know I have qualms about walking into a Trans Mat and having it fail, >but taking the view that it kills you when the 'copy' is indistinguishable >from the original is a bit radical. There seem to be two key issues in this discussion: 1) Point of view. From the point of view of the rest of the universe, it makes no difference whether matter transmission kills the original or not. If the person who comes out the other end is an identical copy then they're the same person for all practical purposes. From the point of view of the person being transmitted it matters very much indeed (at least, it does to me). This bring us to issue two: 2) The nature of consciousness and its reaction to the death of the host organism. The problem here is we simply don't know. Dozens of speculative scenarios come to mind, some more encouraging than others. a) The original is dead and the new personality takes up where the old one left off. (Thanks, but I'd rather walk). b) The mind, liberated from the original body automatically seeks out the duplicate and re-installs itself. (How do we know?) c) The mind is transmitted with the body and emerges intact at the other end. (How do we know?) d) Etc., etc. I don't know about anyone else, but until we get some proven, reliable way of communicating with a mind separated from any host organism (i.e.: proof of continued consciousness after organic death), I wouldn't ride in the damn thing. Given such proof, I'd want to hear what such a consciousness had to say about the matter transmission experience before making up my mind. -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe) Citicorp(+)TTI Common Sense is what tells you that a ten 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. pound weight falls ten times as fast as a Santa Monica, CA 90405 one pound weight. (213) 450-9111, ext. 2483 {philabs,randvax,trwrb,vortex}!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com