Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ncr-sd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!greg From: greg@ncr-sd.UUCP (Greg Noel) Newsgroups: net.micro.att,net.unix,net.sources,net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: 3B2 and 'tset' (the answer) Message-ID: <297@ncr-sd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 20:19:25 EDT Article-I.D.: ncr-sd.297 Posted: Mon Sep 23 20:19:25 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 05:21:54 EDT References: <167@darth.UUCP> <2598@pegasus.UUCP> Reply-To: greg@ncr-sd.UUCP (Greg Noel) Organization: NCR Corporation, Torrey Pines Lines: 22 Keywords: tset, terminfo, termcap, curses Xref: watmath net.micro.att:569 net.unix:5724 net.sources:3523 net.unix-wizards:14988 >< Back in the good(?) old days of System III and Version 7 there was a >< terminal initialization program called 'tset'. Even though this is still >< referenced in the 3B2 documentation in TERMINFO(4) I can find neither hide >< nor hair of it. If anyone has implemented the equivalent function or knows >< of one I would very much appreciate hearing about it. I've had this same complaint. The answer I've received has been that the "tabs" program is supposed to do terminal-specific initialization. Now, while there is a certain kind of sideways logic to using "tabs" that way, the problem is that "tabs" doesn't do it -- in fact, the version we have doesn't even know about curses/terminfo; it has wired-in knowledge about a few specific terminals and makes no attempt whatever to send out generic initialization strings, nor is it smart about baud rates or terminal padding. I don't care if the logic is in "tabs", "tset", or a totally new program; this information is readily available via terminfo and it should be usable somehow. Like the directory-reading routines, this is an area where AT&T has dropped the ball and probably needs some encouragement to get its act together. Maybe if we knew where we could send some nastygrams, we could inundate them with memos until they saw the light........ -- -- Greg Noel, NCR Rancho Bernardo Greg@ncr-sd.UUCP or Greg@nosc.ARPA Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com