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From: greg@olivee.UUCP (Greg Paley)
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Subject: Re: Suggestions wanted - Europe with kids
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Date: Tue, 1-Oct-85 13:43:56 EDT
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> 
> The biggest mistake you are about to make is that you are
> doing too much.  Kids dont like to be moved around so much.
> Too many changes of environment.
> WHen we take our kids (at various ages) we tend to stay in
> one or two places and travel in and out from there.
> THis gives the kids time to get used to the new place
> and to grow some attachment to it.  After 2 weeks and 10
> diferent hotels/restaurants etc. the kids are reduced to
> neurotic rubble and the parents are about to kill.
> Take it easy.  Do things slowly.  Pace yourselves and
> plan to do one or two things a day and spend alot of time
> with the kids as a family.
> Save the trekking for a time when the kids can be left
> at home or at camp (stateside with their friends) and
> you and spouse can do it at your own pace.
> (...just a minor flame...  I've seen too many vacations
> ruined this way... a trip to europe (or anywhere) with
> the kids SHOULD be rewarding for everyone.)
> 
> -- 
>      
>     [rchrd] = Richard Friedman
>               Pacific-Sierra Research, 2855 Telegraph #415
>               Berkeley, CA 94705 (415) 540 5216
>     UUCP: {dual,hplabs,ptsfa,apple}!well!rchrd

I appreciate the advice and didn't take this as a flame.  In
planning our trip, we've been concerned about just this.  What
we want to do is strike a balance so that, on the one hand,
we're not dragging ourselves wildly from place to place but,
on the other hand, seeing enough to feel we're getting our
money's worth out of the flight costs.

We've already been to Europe once with the kids - last year,
when they were 3 1/2 and 1.  At the time, we found that the
kids (at least the 3 1/2 year old, the 1 year old didn't seem
to care) had already adjusted to what was around and were ready
to move on to something else before my wife and I had quite
gotten our bearings.  Nonetheless, we'll consider your advice
seriously.

Two points I want to emphasize, though:

 (1) We will have a full 6-7 weeks to play with.  This should
     allow for a fairly extensive itinerary without forcing us
     to be on the move every day.  Along this line, we will be
     staying a few weeks with friends south of Munich (in
     Wolfratshausen, to be specific) where we were last year.
     From there, it's less than an hour to Garmisch-Partenkirchen,
     a half an hour to Linderhof, and just about an hour to
     Fuessen (Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau), which does make
     several day-excursions feasible in the course of a couple of
     weeks.
 (2) At this point, we're trying to gather info along the broadest
     lines possible.  We don't seriously think we'll do everything
     we have in mind but will, when the time comes for concrete
     plans and reservations, reduce our plans to what seem to be
     the best bets.

Again, thanks for the advice.

	- Greg Paley


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