Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site calma.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!sun!calma!radzy From: radzy@calma.uucp (Tim Radzykewycz) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: users going invisible Message-ID: <20@calma.uucp> Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 14:08:58 EDT Article-I.D.: calma.20 Posted: Mon Sep 16 14:08:58 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Sep-85 04:47:37 EDT Reply-To: radzy@calma.UUCP (Tim Radzykewycz) Organization: GE/Calma Co., R&D Systems Engineering, Milpitas, CA Lines: 32 > From: notch@srcsip.UUCP (Michael k Notch) > Subject: invisibility. > I have heard a rumor that it is possible for a user on 4.2bsd to go > invisible to other users. > Has anyone else heard this rumor and possibly confirm it. > Also, if it is true, could someone explain to me how it is done. > Thanks. I will take this in the strictest confidence. It is possible for a user on 4.2 to "go invisible". 4.2 keeps login accounting records in a file in one of the administration directories (I won't say where, mostly because I don't remember offhand). It's possible for this to happen if a system manager cleans out the accounting file when people are logged in: the ones who were logged in before the file gets cleaned up become "invisible" to anyone who does who(1), w(1), and anything else which tells if they're on. I presume it would be possible for someone with superuser privs to write a "logout" record to the file and become invisible, but I haven't ever seen that happen and don't see why it would be desirable (other than for those "hackers" [read: "creeps" :-}] who want to do it "just 'cuz it's possible"). By the way, this doesn't mung any process accounting other than connect time -- for those of you who keep track of such things. -- Tim (radzy) Radzykewycz calma!radzy@ucbvax.ARPA ucbvax!calma!radzy Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com