Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site uvm-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!dartvax!uvm-gen!uvm-cs!hartley From: hartley@uvm-cs.UUCP (Steve) Newsgroups: net.unix,net.cse Subject: students editing output Message-ID: <433@uvm-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 22:27:12 EDT Article-I.D.: uvm-cs.433 Posted: Thu Sep 12 22:27:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Sep-85 03:33:12 EDT Expires: Thu, 3-Oct-85 00:00:00 EDT Organization: UVM Lines: 27 Xref: linus net.unix:5010 net.cse:374 We have two VAXen here running 4.2, and besides faculty and graduate student research, we have some classes on the machines. Although interactive use with full-screen editors is a giant leap forward from the not-so-distant past of batch submission using cards, the latter did have the advantage of some security that the students hadn't tailored their output with an editor to be more correct. I do not mean to sound like I am assuming that all students would take advantage of this feature, but I have heard rumors from some of the students in classes I have taught in the past that a little of this did go on. I can see the temptation arising the night before an assignment is due and the program doesn't work. There the (incorrect) output sits in a file, and all the professor wants is the output file printed on a terminal along with a listing. Who's to know if it is edited a little to change those incorrect numbers .... I am wondering if there are batch submission systems out there running under 4.2 BSD that are integrated with the line-printer spooling system. A student would gather up program source and input data along with a shell script on how to compile, load, and go, and submit it to the batch server. The output would automatically go to a printer, offering some assurance that it hadn't been tweaked. The only way I know of to check a student's work is go through a demo. But this is terribly time consuming, and it is hard to set a precise due date (unless you check file modification times). What do other people do? Thanks. -- "If that's true, then I'm the Pope!" Stephen J. Hartley USENET: {decvax,ihnp4}!dartvax!uvm-gen!uvm-cs!hartley University of Vermont CSNET: hartley%uvm@csnet-relay (802) 656-3330, 862-5323 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com