Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2(pesnta.1.3) 9/5/84; site epicen.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!nsc!cadtec!csi!epicen!jbuck From: jbuck@epicen.UUCP (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: net.ham-radio,net.dcom,net.video Subject: Re: Listen to phone calls on your tvro Message-ID: <218@epicen.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 16:49:37 EDT Article-I.D.: epicen.218 Posted: Mon Sep 23 16:49:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 27-Sep-85 07:38:30 EDT References: <338@nicmad.UUCP> <780@vortex.UUCP> <95@l5.uucp> <435@kitty.UUCP> Organization: Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 24 Xref: linus net.ham-radio:2668 net.dcom:1123 net.video:1464 Summary: Do you want to eliminate the 4th amendment? > From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) > Date: 16 Sep 85 22:53:39 GMT > > I am certain that a number of people will be upset that their dialed > number information COULD be obtained by a law enforcement agency without the > benefit of any judicial proceeding authorizing same. However, if you are not > doing anything illegal which would MOTIVATE a law enforcement agency to take > this rather EXTREME step, then you really shouldn't lose any sleep over the > possibility... By this argument, there should be no 4th amendment. After all, if you're not doing anything wrong, why should you fear a search of your house, or a tap on your phone? Federal angencies have often been used in the recent past to investigate legitimate political activity, rather than criminal activity. For example, if the phone #'s of known radicals (I'm talking about people that SAY radical things, not mad bombers) appear on my phone bill, what right does the FBI have to know that? If they had to go to a judge and present some evidence that I might be involved in criminal activity, and the judge issues a warrant, then and only then should they be allowed to obtain "billing information" or tap my phone. -- Joe Buck | Entropic Processing, Inc. UUCP: {ucbvax,ihnp4}!dual!epicen!jbuck | 10011 N. Foothill Blvd. ARPA: dual!epicen!jbuck@BERKELEY.ARPA | Cupertino, CA 95014 Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com