Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site nrcvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!dual!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!nrcvax!terry From: terry@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Name-changing and "identity" Message-ID: <255@nrcvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 19:31:44 EDT Article-I.D.: nrcvax.255 Posted: Thu Sep 12 19:31:44 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 18-Sep-85 05:35:57 EDT References: <510@osiris.UUCP> Reply-To: terry@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) Distribution: net Organization: Network Research Research Corp. Oxnard,CA Lines: 37 jcp@osiris.UUCP (Jody Patilla) says: > It is also historically true that a woman takes a man's name as a >sign of becoming his property - in effect, her virginity ceases to be the >property of her father and is given over to her husband. That is why the >father "gives" the bride away at the wedding (another tradition I didn't >go along with !). This is well-documented in historical analysis. If we >are trying to dispense with "traditional" views of women as weak-minded, >helpless children, or as sex and baby-making machines for the dominant >males, then we should dispense with the "traditions" that subtly reinforce >those views. > As they say, men of quality are not threatened by women for equality. There is also the aspect that when a woman takes the man's name, or vice versa if you prefer, it means that the "family" as a whole has one name. This tends to unite the family as a group, giving it a sense of unity, which hopefully will *keep* it a family. When each individual in the family has a different name, there is an element of unity missing, which has a tendency to split up the family. And there are already enough elements out there waiting to split up families. I also had property in my name, credit cards, a profession, etc., when I got married. I changed my name to my husband's name to signify my unity with him. I preferred not to hang on to that element of individuality. Many others I did hang on to, but that one presented to the world at large our unity as a family, and that meant a lot to me. I wanted the world to know--not that I was his property--but that he and I were joined in a common cause, creating an enduring family unit. -- \"\t\f1A\h'+1m'\f4\(mo\h'+1m'\f1the\h'+1m'\f4\(es\t\f1\c _______________________________________________________________________ Terry Grevstad Network Research Corporation {sdcsvax,hplabs}!sdcrdcf!psivax!nrcvax!terry ucbvax!calma!nrcvax!terry Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com